Posts Tagged ‘ice harvesting

04
Jun
14

Mining Barges in Kronos

So, a while back I made some posts about mining barges. They’ve been tweaked a bit in Kronos so I thought I’d take a look at the fits and see how they now compare.

Procurer

Still best for surviving ganks or going AFK without caring, but this time with more drones and speed and even less yield than before.

Max yield drops from 16.4 to 15.2 but is 15% tougher. Ore hold fills in 13.2 minutes.

Procurer fit for yield is still tough as a brick, but still 18 cubic metres yield, down from 19.2, but still tougher than in Odyssey even when fitting a survey scanner. Ore hold fills in 11.1 minutes.

Ice

For ice harvesting, the max tank Procurer is still stupidly tough, but IMO it’s definitely worth using the ice harvesting rig because you do have EHP to spare. (fills in 13.5 minutes)

The Procurer can easily sacrifice the suitcase and a rig slot for max yield, yet still be quite difficult to gank. (fills in 9.8 minutes)

Retriever

The Retriever was too popular, so its yield has been nerfed to counteract its effortless AFK isk.

Retriever fit for max tank is the same yield as a Procurer. At least the transverse bulkheads are a massive improvement. 19k EHP is pretty decent against a solo ganker. Ore hold fills in 30.1 minutes.

The Retriever yield has had a haircut so it makes sense to tank it up a bit since you’re obviously not in it for the yield so much as the AFKness. Fills in 25.4 minutes.

Ice

The max tank Retriever aims to maximise survival against a single ganker while getting some sort of ice while AFK. Fills 26 blocks in 25.7 minutes.

 

The ice yield Retriever aims to not be uber-tanked, but just less desirable than the Retriever next to it. Fills 26 blocks in 21.2 minutes. (Feel free to swap the survey scanner with a small shield extender II or meta thermic shield resistance amplifier)

Covetor

Now boosted for even more yield at the expense of everything else.

Covetor yield is now 22.35 even with a damage control (this is for solo usage). In a mining fleet situation, you won’t need the scanner, and you’re probably better off with shield rigs because you’re likely to be receiving shield gang link support. Ore hold fills in 5.2 minutes.

Max yield Coveter is 4 or 5% better than in Odyssey and hasn’t changed much. Note the shield fit, to take advantage of fleet bonuses. Ore hold fills in 4.8 minutes.

Ice

A minimally-tanked Covetor is still squishy. I don’t like it. Six blocks takes four minutes.

The max ice Covetor is short on CPU so a processor over-clocking rig may be needed. Six blocks takes 3.64 minutes.

So, there you have it. The transverse bulkheads are great for solo use, especially on the Retriever and Covetor,
but aren’t as good as shield rigs if you have fleet boosts. The Procurer is a lot tankier and useful in High sec,
the Retriever is slightly nerfed but still the king of afk for 30 minutes play, and the Covetor gets a slight yield buff
to make it even more attractive for alert miners who are after maximum yield.

 

24
Aug
12

new mining barges: ice harvesting

(see part 1)

Edit: New Kronos-era fits are available here.

The new medium ice harvester accelerator rig extends some of the Mackinaw’s old ice bonus to all barges, which is a big deal for new or thrifty players who want to mine ice in a tech 1 mining barge.

Note: Pre-Odyssey stats

These fits were calculated pre-Odyssey, so if you fly these in more modern times, you’ll get twice the ice yield as described here. The relative yields between each fit haven’t changed though.

Procurer

Mining ice safely is the kind of thing that the Procurer excels at. Its ore hold can store twelve blocks of ice, which is less of a problem when mining ice because the yield is much lower.

Tanky (28.8 blocks/hour)

The tanky fit is as tough as a cheap battleship, and still mines a respectable 1 block every 125 seconds (filling the cargohold in 25 minutes)

Yield (39.5 blocks/hour)

Fit for Ice yield, the Procurer can pull down a block of ice in 91.1 seconds (18min 13 seconds for full cargo) while still being as tough as a battlecruiser. If you want a tank somewhere between tanky and full yield, a Damage Control II will add about +16k effective hp.

Retriever

The Retriever is the ultimate afk ice mining boat, with a 27.5k ore bay (of which, realistically, only 26k is available when mining ice optimally)

Tanky (39.5 blocks/hour)

The Reriever will never have a decent tank, but sometimes you don’t need an awesome tank; just a better tank then the guy floating next to you. Yield is 2 blocks every 182 seconds, or a full cargohold in just under 40 minutes.

Yield (43.3 blocks/hour)

Fit for yield, the dual Ice Harvesters have a 166s cycle time, pulling down 26 blocks in just under 36 minutes. The tank is necessarily lacking, due to the processor overclocking rig. The lone mid slot is also constrained by the low CPU –  an Electronics EE-603 implant still isn’t enough to fit an invulnerability field, which again doesn’t improve the tank beyond about 10.9k EHP.

Covetor

If you’re mining ice in a Covetor without Orca support, you’re doing it wrong. The ore bay can only hold three cycles, so any gain in yield is more han offset by the hassle of offloading the ice once it’s harvested.

Tanky (42.3 blocks/hour)

Three 255-second harvesters will fill the ore bay in 8.5 minutes – about the same rate as a Retriever fit for yield, but more fiddly.

Yield (46.5 blocks/hour)

Fit for yield, the Covetor is a much different beast. A trio of 232-second harvesters will fill the cargohold in seven and a half minutes. The tank is woeful, but, then again, you don’t even bring out the Covetor if you’re worried about tanking.