Something, something, TMC Chat logs

So, Marlona Sky had a falling-out with themittanidotcom over one thing or another, leading to him being banned from commenting on their articles and forums.

When the whole Somer Blink thing cropped up, Marlona mentioned that he had logs of a conversation where CFC people were in awe of the isk brought in by Blink, and idle plans to create their own version. People clamoured for him to release the logs, so he did.

Someone posted it to reddit, and promptly got banned for not redacting RL personal details from the dump. Jester started digging through the logs, posting tasty morsels, and ex-CCP Sreegs dropped in to damage control clarify some details.

So, if you’re up for some juicy gossip and wild speculation, put some popcorn in the microwave and start reading.

On stagnation in nullsec

LordsServant is a HBC member well known for bad posting but today he cut to the heart of nullsec’s stagnation, and the recent calls for wargames in nullsec.

Problem is there’s no fucking good alliance leaders anymore.

Goddamn noone gets stoned or drunk and says “Hey lets go fuck those people up tonight!”

Oh, they won’t fight us – LETS FUCKING SHOOT UP their shit or punish them by taking some source of their isk/camping them in for a week or w/e.

I’ve got great memories of leaders who went out and DID SHIT. They created content for their members, they gave us the good memories, the shit that most of us joined this game for in the beginning.

What do we have now? The so called “leader” of the biggest fucking blue coalition in the game doesn’t even play the game. He comes on once every couple months to make a speech, then goes back to writing propaganda for his fucking “Fair and Balanced” Fox news wannabe website.

If eve is still around 5 years from now, how will we remember this time?

5+ years ago, we were watching juggernauts like BoB brawling back and forth with the NC. We watched the entirety of the north burn under some of the greatest focused aggression and organized pvp in the game – D2 fell and MC burned the north. We saw an entire new section of eve open up(the drones), with all the resulting land grab and stories that it involved.

We saw PL running around all over the place shooting up w/e they want(Maru Kage anyone?), and quadruple DDing ppl whenever they started to lose(lol). I remember Evil Thug screaming like a madman in heavily accented russian/english, posting about how his alliance m8s were fucking shit because they weren’t camping a gate with him in his titan 18 hours a day.

People like x13 killed the very first mothership in losec – does anyone remember how The End and Mr Xtreme used to camp Tama with a nyx almost nonstop? What about ginger magician? Infod? Burn Eden rolling into a region and SHUTTING IT THE FUCK DOWN WHILE PEOPLE COWERED IN TERROR? This shit really doesn’t happen anymore.

They’re good memories, they were content, things happened and stuff was risked.

Now all we have are these gigantic fucking bluefests where noone does anything but bitch about whatever mechanics, bitch about how rich they are, and the people at the top don’t even fucking log in except rarely.

If they’re ever toppled, we’ll only look back on this with disgust. We’re living through the antithesis of a golden age. We should be undergoing a golden age of pvp with all the content balancing going on, new ships and modules being introduced, etc etc.

CCP isn’t to blame.

It’s us. We’re killing the game. Administrators not interested in pvp or creating content for their members beyond padding their personal/alliance wallets(is there a difference?) – ingame or out of game, it doesn’t matter, “lead” the most powerful groups in the game – power that is largely gained by blueing everything. CCP has steadily eroded(at the players request) any option to exist independently in eve or to engage and be competitive in any “serious” pvp beyond bringing the biggest blob possible. Noone is to blame but the playerbase for steadily becoming more and more complacent, and pushing down those who try to fight against this fucking hibernating oozing whiny provincial morass of a playerbase we’ve become.

CCP can’t fix this so long as the most interesting thing happening in the game is fucking ship rebalancing or RvB in nullsec.

Nullsec is the Africa of Eve

Sponk has a post on Failheap in a thread discussing the logistics of transport and trade in Eve (amongst other things) that highlights the main issues surrounding the mythical ‘industrial expansion’ that always seems to be on the horizon but never gets done.

What CCP has consistently failed to do is to articulate a plan for the economic structure of nullsec.

Currently, nullsec is the Africa of Eve.

Imports: Basically everything due to no local infrastructure, but mostly weapons
Manufactures for local use: lol
Exports: valuable unprocessed materials (rare earths high-end minerals, oil moon goo, diamonds deadspace modules), corpses

A lot of people who complain about this situation would prefer nullsec to be the Stargate:Atlantis of Eve instead.

Imports: Basically everything, but in punishingly small volumes
Manufactures for local use: as much as it can
Exports: high-tech relics in punishingly small volumes

To change to this model, jump freighters have to go (or have their cargohold cut by 95%) plus jump spoolups plus nerfing mineral compression for low-ends plus make mining low-ends in null easy-mode plus a whole raft of other changes, or else you’ll find that a single nullsec fight depletes the entire region of manufacturing capability for days, just to replace the ammo, let alone the ships.

This is a major issue for a nullsec industry shakeup that hasn’t been addressed so far by CCP.

What should nullsec import, and what should nullsec export? More on this once I’ve had a think about it.

Jita Riots Legacy

Remember the Jita Riots?
Top image is on Singularity server; bottom image is what it used to look like.

Show Info now shows:

This was once a memorial to the winners of a riddle contest sponsored by late entrepreneur Ruevo Aram. After standing proud for half a decade, it was destroyed in late YC113 by capsuleers who were staging a mass uprising against an intolerable status quo of intergalactic affairs. Today, the ruins of this once-great work of art stand as a testament to the fact that change is the universe’s only constant.

Source: failheap

Virtuozzo, Moderator Extraordinaire

Virt evidently isn’t satisfied with being moderator on Failheap; he has started a Google Moderator discussion to crowdsource ideas for Eve.

Check it out.